There is one Beethoven. I'd say you can expect similar results in the Pathetique as the Moonlight. Both are similarly repetitive, even if the Pathetique is a bit more intricate than "2nd inverted arpeggio, arpeggio, 1st inverted arpeggio, 2nd inverted Joined: Dec It took me a few months.
You know, i never understood these types of threads, why waste your time asking others how long it took them to memorize a piece when you can be spending that time improving your memory by expecting yourself to learn increasingly large amounts of music each day - that's all you can really do!
I guess people who have better memory in general gain a certain advantage in learning pieces, but alot of it really has to do simply with one of two things a how much you like the piece and feel like learning it, and b how important it is for you to learn a piece based on what it's for school, competition, recital, etc.
I think anyone can be a quick learner if they want to and are really interested in the piece, but sometimes, you cast aside pieces that are for something, just because you're playing other pieces you like even more for the same occasion. I find it's so crucial that you thoroughly enjoy every piece of music you perform which doesn't necessarily also mean "learn" , I think I heard a similar comment in a quote in my class today from the late Mr.
Horowitz, who replied to a man that actually dared question why his concert repertoire was as small as it was, citing a Schubert Sonata as being is only performed of them all "Ah, but I have learned all of Schubert's piano works, my friend, and it is this particular Sonata which suits me best".
There is such a huge repertory out there that we'd all have choice repertoire for years to come if we took the amazing challenge of listening to as much of the unheard period music of the centuries before ours as possible and picked out only those pieces which struck us in a unique fashion TheAsainPianist, take heart. I read most of the replies here and I guess I am the slowest by far. I stated playing piano at age I am 63 now.
I've been taking private lessons for the entire 3 years. My goal was to learn how to play Pathetique Adagio Cantabile before my time on earth is up. I've worked on it secretly from my piano teacher because she told me it was beyond my skill level. It doesn't help me at all to memorize the notes past the first 5 bars of music, although I can but not in days maybe weeks, because I have to learn finger position and a million other skills.
I work hours and hours on the trills and a couple of other rough spots for me. The trills give me the most problem. After 3 years I have made it though the first page or 5 bars of the adagio.
I am obviously not near the level nor do I have the talent of any of the posters here but I love this piece and you can identify what I am playing. The first few bars are pretty good now after 3 years the last bars not so much. Its very slow going for a guy like me but I am making progress. I will not give up until I learn the entire piece.
I've changed piano teachers now. My new teacher lets me work on Pathetique Adagio Cantable. She is a nice lady and is very encouraging. As long as we're answering old questions, I spent a week or two on each pages. Seattle area, WA. Old, old thread. Learned the first two movements in my teens and the last in my 50's so that's about 40 years. Joined: Sep Yes, he probably has learned it by now.
It took me ALL day! Joined: May Joined: Mar As a matter of fact I have to perform this sonata this week, I played it this summer, I play it every two years or so, and whenever it's due I have to start all over again, because I think I don't know it at all, this is going on for the past 30 years, so my pessimistic message is: not in 30 years one will 'know' this piece, or any other for that matter.
I just finished the first movement and it took me about 2 months, but it still sounds terrible and annoying :P. Moderated by Brendan , Kreisler. Print Thread Show Likes. Piano Concerts, Recitals, Competitions The Polling Booth Legal Issues. What's Hot!! Download Sheet Music. Most Online 15, Mar 21st, Please Support Our Advertisers. Powered by UBB. Find a Professional. Who's Online Now. Previous Thread. Next Thread. Print Thread. Asian Invasion. Copy Link to Clipboard.
Share Post on Facebook. Share Post on Twitter. Share Post on Reddit. Piano accessories and music gift items, digital piano dolly, music theme party goods, and more! Quote Caution: I learn extremely rapidly. For now i'll take your word for it to make this comment. My memory towards facts can click within a few hrs with proper repitition procedures, such as cramming in formulas and definitions 2 hours prior to an exam.
However, using the pathetique as an example, i dont personally think it's possible for me to memorize under 4 days, specifically spending 1 -2 hours a day. Perhaps there is a cognitive gap between the objective of memorizing music and memorizing facts that may account for the reason why my ability to memorize facts doesnt add up to the potential in music memory. Maybe perfect memorization of the piece[pathetique] is possible for me within a week but beyond that will require hectic diligence on my part.
Well, whatever it may be, i cant really think of a physiological explanation of myself. Quote Originally posted by Derulux: What matters is how well you play it. I'll hold you to it. Alkan Post Club Member. Quote Originally posted by C. This is the best way to learn a piece, constant revisitation. Like an essay, you would continually revisit, revise, and improve the work.
Having this time span matures the piece in so many ways for me. I can memorize just about anything fairly easily. The reason I memorize music so much faster lies in pattern recognition. I'm sure you're well aware of the phrase "7 plus or minus 2"? I can get bits of information on average, depending on what it is. My aunt I'm good at math, but not great. I'm good at random facts, but not great. What makes my memorization of music stand out is because I recognize patterns in music much more quickly than I do in nearly anything else.
It's kind of like looking at those "3D picture" things I just memorize the picture. I suppose another way to say it is when you read a book, you don't read the letters and then try to put together the words.
The words stand out because you recognize the pattern of the words. Somehow, I do that with music. Quote I'll hold you to it. But hopefully my current teacher will help fill that gap.
But I've promised and will promise again to provide a recording for you and especially Mr. Pianoforte, who will not relent! I've got Lisztian recognition, but Marx Brothers fingers.
While I've only ever performed once recently As Mr. Alkan said, the piece does need to "sit" under your fingers and develop at its own pace before you go on stage with it. I mean, go nuts I don't know if "seven months" is a perfect time for everyone, but each person should probably figure out whatever their amount of time is and stick to it, no matter how comfortable they are with a piece after a shorter period of time.
Poetry is rhythm. Best regards, Deborah. Show Likes. The second subject is usually in the dominant, relative major or minor key. Between each of the sections there are transition links. The development takes all of the ideas of the first and second subjects from the exposition and manipulates each idea to sound different, such as a change in pitch.
This section moves through lots of different key signatures. The first and second subjects heard in the exposition are repeated in this section. However, the second subject is now in the tonic key instead of a related key signature. A coda concludes the movement. In another of Beethoven pieces - Symphony No.
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