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Ushgarak Faded away and died before he disappeared? That makes no sense; you had him fade tiwce. You fall unconscious and then die later. But anyway, it isn't that important and if you want to believe they died 'first' then feel free. Anakin, meanwhile, was seen in ghost form and so almost certainly disappeared. Well, maybe. So the world may actually never know. Mujaffa obi-wan was one with the force when he was slashed be vader It has not.
Fire could be, well I don't know the entire history so sorry Fire didn't know u used E. I didn't hear or see it, but it could be yerssot "Someday I will even learn to stop people from dieing" Anakin, EpII Fire yea maybe yerssot so that could strenghten the idea that it is about the prophecy Fire yea possibly, actualy the chances that it's related to the prophecy are pretty big Julie What prophecy? Everything we have in the films makes it clear that the disappearing trick is NOT something that Jedi normally do.
The crux line is "Strike me down and I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine," followed by Vader's confusion at the disappeared body. This is not something that has happened before; it is unique to the Jedi in those films.
Fire yea so it might have to do with the prophecy, but it still is possible that those three are special jedi for some reason, not alone the prophecy yerssot too much luck I think Fire maybe, but still that's why they call it luck nha now for real prolly has to do with the prophecy yerssot "In my experience there is no such thing as luck" Captain REX I think it has more to do with Anakin, the Skywalker family, and the Prophecy of the Chosen One.
I don't know why, it just makes more sense than the other theories. But the line that Ush keeps repeating has somethin to do with it, likely. And again, if it could just be discovered like that, someone would have done it before. Being only two that is Mujaffa didn't think he ever learned Dark Lord Djas Keep in mind this is only another theory. Maybe yoda knew it and wanted it to be only used for emergencies, so when the Jedi where all but exterminated he taught this to obi-wan just in case something was to happen to him and he needed to do something else of great importance.
And Darth Vader probably figured it out how to do it in Ep V. Ushgarak I doubt Vader had any idea until he was Anakin again. GordonSkywalker A very interesting mystery we seem to have on our hands I always wondered about Yoda and Obi-Wan vanishing upon their deaths. Yet allegedly the reconverted Anakin did the same,leaving only the Vader armour behind. However, if one checks out an obscure passage in "Champions of the Force" the final book in the Jedi academy trilogy by Kevin Anderson , Luke Skywalker wondered why his body did not vanish when he thought he was dead,following the betrayal of one of his students at the academy.
He thought it meant he was not a true Jedi Master. However,as we all know,he wasn't really dead,it was only a trick by the Sith Lord in the book. So whatever the reason behind the disappearing,Luke did not know how to do it. Which only serves to enhance this liitle mystery of ours Ushgarak Not that we can count EU sources. GordonSkywalker Apparently,some do, judging by several of the entries stored in this database. Ushgarak Their mistake.
GordonSkywalker Let's not nitpick over technicalities. Either way, it is a most fascinating subject,to be sure. I never understood why or how he just vanished like that,unless it was so he could continue to direct Luke in the ways of the Force,and eventually send him to Dagobah,as in ESB.
Dagoth Sur You Fools if you watched the third movie 6th one made it says at the end that quigon-jin figured out a way of revival so maybe obi-wan made contact with yoda and darth sidios showed darth vader how to do this as well explaining all your problems. And they could just bind their spirit through the force Sesse Originally posted by ravish i feel the reason that qui gon didnt disappear is simply because he didnt know how to..
And about the disappearing trick, I agree that only Jedi ready for death do it, and we don't hear about it in the past because it has no relavence to the storyline.
And plus, any Jedi can learn the pathway to immortality and ghost form, I. Qui-Gon didn't fade away, but he figured it out, and taught the others. That's just my two cents. Ushgarak Yeah, nice going in bumping a years old thread there. Captain REX Wow, old argument revived Or that it was just simply that he was the Chosen One and did not need to learn it?
But he had all that time to perfect it. Interesting idea that his lightsaber was weaker though. I always just saw that as a bad effects thing. And that TLJ art book quote is a weird interpretation.
If by "bringing father and son together" it means "son will be motivated to kill the father more than ever now, because believing a lie that his father was murdered wasn't enough, Obi-Wan has to add another reason Luke wants Vader dead" Real "selfless act" there, Obi-Wan. Yeah, I'm going to go with the "stalling and self-sacrifice so the others can escape" reason. It just makes more sense. Last edited: Jun 25, Starith , Jun 25, Registered: Feb 24, Registered: Mar 10, There was a trap door and he knew a little bit of magic.
So, poof! Later Vader! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk. Immortiss , Jul 5, Registered: May 19, Obi-Wan realized that there was no way he was going to be able to contend with Vader and the stromtroopers in order to reach the Falcon. Obi-Wan looks over and sees Luke and Leia, the children of Anakin, getting ready to board that ship and he knew that the torch had officially been passed.
Obi-Wan realized his adventures were over and Luke's were just beginning. FightoftheForgotten , Jul 6, Registered: Dec 5, He had been alone for years before his final meeting with Vader. I believe he felt like he was at the end of the road, and meeting Vader again was full circle, and time to attain closure and a sense of peace.
Sarge likes this. Registered: Apr 14, Because George Lucas had to spice up the film somehow after taking out the sex and violence. Sir Alec convinced Lucas to kill off the character, ostensibly to make him Obi-Wan stronger, but really so he Sir Alec could wrap up his part and get off the set, preferably permanently.
It's not like he needed the money. Lucas, being a moderately competent scriptwriter keep him far, far away from any romantic plotline , decided to put Obi-Wan's death where it is. Falling off one of the non-OHSA-approved walkways that seem to be absolutely everywhere would have been rather anticlimactic, but a swordfight against the Dark Lord?
Oh yeah. And for the whiners who say this is an out-of-universe answer: Reality wrote the plot here. Maybe in that universe there is no Yoda, as the green guy basically takes over OW's role. Obviously, that couldn't happen if Vader were dead, i. So, again for "some reason," Obi-wan [seems to have] said, "I don't need to beat this guy Vader after all -- besides, it's not my battle to win; it's not supposed to end this way.
I think Obi-wan chose to die precisely when Luke was watching -- to make the points that 1 you don't have to succumb to "fate" or "the dark side;" you always have some kind of self-determination, and 2 we never really die; we live on as Obi-wan momentarily demonstrates by talking to Luke from "the beyond" , in a better, and perhaps, as Obi-wan has threatened Vader, an even stronger way, i.
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Learn more. Did Obi-Wan need to sacrifice himself to Vader? Ask Question. Asked 7 years, 6 months ago. Active 2 years, 10 months ago. Viewed 31k times. As far as I understand it, Obi-Wan Kenobi's motivation for engaging Darth Vader in combat and allowing himself to be slain was to buy time for Luke et al to escape from the Death Star. But as the subsequent exchange between Vader and Tarkin reveals, Vader allowed the heroes to escape so that the Falcon would lead them to the Rebel base.
Improve this question. The Witch King of Angmar Actually, he already planned to die to become more powerful. Instead of private suicide, he wanted to show off to his old friend. SachinShekhar, do you have a source for this? Or is this implied from Obi-Wan saying "I'm getting too old for this sort of thing"?
I think Sachin is pulling your leg.
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